Sunday, November 27, 2011

Italy next week

Some stories in European press (La Stampa - Zero Hedge link) suggest that Italy is working on a very big loan package from the IMF. I have no doubt that there are ongoing discussions. There has to be. Either someone puts a finger in the dike or Italy goes tapioca.

That thought is difficult for me to fathom. How could we be so close to the brink? At this point there is zero possibility that Italy can refinance any portion of its $300b of 2012 maturing debt. If there is anyone at the table who still still thinks that Italy can pull off a miracle, they are wrong. I’m certain that the finance guys at the ECB and Italian CB understand this. I repeat, there is a zero chance for a market solution for Italy. Either the ECB (aka Germany) steps in and underwrites the debt with some form of Euro bonds or the IMF (aka the USA) steps in with some very serious money.

I have acknowledged in recent articles that I misread the Italian story. I didn't see this coming at the pace that it has. Italian bond yields more than doubled in a month. I was not alone in this very big misread. I believe it has caught everyone flatfooted. Central bankers and finance officials all over the globe are crapping in their pants.

I think the Italian story is make or break. Either this gets fixed or Italy defaults in less than six months. The default option is not really an option that policy makers would consider. If Italy can’t make it, then there will be a very big crashing sound. It would end up taking out most of the global lenders, a fair number of countries would follow into Italy’s vortex. In my opinion a default by Italy is certain to bring a global depression; one that would take many years to crawl out of. The policy makers are aware of this too.

So I say something is brewing. And yes, if there is a plan in the works it must involve the IMF. And yes, it’s going to be big.

Please do not read this and conclude that some headline is coming that will make us all feel happy again. I think headlines are coming. But those headlines are likely to scare the crap out of the markets once the implications are understood.

In the real world of global finance the reality is that any country that is forced to accept an IMF bailout is also blocked from issuing debt in the public markets. IMF (or other supranational debt) is ALWAYS senior to other indebtedness of the country. That’s just the way it works. When Italy borrows money from the IMF it automatically subordinates the existing creditors. Lenders hate this. They will vote with their feet and take a pass at Italian new debt issuance for a long time to come. Once the process starts, it will not end. There will be a snow ball of other creditors. That's exactly what happened in the 80's when Mexico failed; within a year two dozen other countries were forced to their debt knees. (I had a front row seat.)

I don’t see a way out of this box. The liquidity crisis in Italy is scaring us to death, the solution will almost certainly kill us.

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Note:
The news announced last week where the IMF is providing EU countries a new "crisis" lending facility equal to 5Xs their IMF quota is a joke. What has been offered is a drop in the bucket against what is required. The La Stampa story today and this discussion are about something separate and distinct. What would be required is a step without precedent. It would dwarf what the IMF put forward just a few days ago.

19 comments:

  1. I listened to Neil Farage's rant. The new one. Again, against the Belgian "Rump-roy" ... And, in the rant, Farage says that the Belgians are working around voters!

    In Greece the toppled their PM, and put in a puppet from the IMF.

    Then, they did the same in Italy.

    PUPPETS. Who work for the IMF. While Spain just voted out its politicians. Opting for a whole new set.

    France. My oh my. DSK is back in the "news" ... as if he hasn't been disqualified to run against Sarkozy in April. You know what? Let the brute win in France. See if I care? Napoleon is coming back!

    The "CRISIS" in the EU happened two years ago!

    Now? It's all about "negotiations."

    Reminds me how the Korean "war" ended in stalemate. (Which is how the UN had begun. With Truman's cooperation.) But then the diplomats went to Paris. To stop the unnecessary slaughter of America's DRAFTED troops! (M.A.S.H. was born, there.

    While in Paris, the diplomats dined so well, that they took two years time deciding on just the shape of the table!

    Give diplomats good food ... and they stick around well past their "sell by" date.

    The UN and the EU. All about stealing sovereignty away from the voters.

    As to more toxic paper? Be nice if it all lands on the heads of the Germans. And, there are NO American bailouts.

    Citigroup? They've been sponging up this toxic debt. But if they go under ... buh bye to them.

    Just like MF Global. Jon Corzine's "bet" on "repo-mortgage-paper" ... that suddenly, in the short term BLOOMED higher interest rates. That scuttled Jon Corzine. Who couldn't cover his margin call.

    Next? Try to woo investors back into the marketplace.

    Investors stopped making money back in 2000.

    The "bubble?" A scam. Now over.

    Merkel? She can't get elected, again. So what she does, besides prop up "negotiations" ... is to keep her parliament from holding a vote. Have you noticed how that goes missing?

    Why is this not like WW2? There are no concentration camps. There's also good news, in that the German's won't deal with Jews. So their banks can go up in smoke ... and not take Jews up the chimney stack.)

    Ten years from now? Will the globe be out of its slump? I don't know.

    But after bankruptcy happens ... those investors who lose will learn to be more careful. Then, default? It's a good thing.

    It will even be good in California. Because the State can't bail itself out. And,people living in Indiana aren't going to be offering anything to STINKING POLITICIANS!

    There's change ahead. And, yes. Hard times, too. While when the price of food goes up, the price of food is never factored into the inflation index.

    How come the Europeans have been so dead to learning how killing the EURO would have worked better two years ago?

    No re-do's.

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  2. "Why is this not like WW2?"

    Funny, I see this as being more similar to WWI whereas all parties will act accordingly because the situation will be so dire if they don't. Then, as now, the conventional wisdom/smart money was on the side of the diplomats forging innovative agreements due to the ramifications if they failed to do so.

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  3. More and more it's beginning to look like a long, hard grind between the proverbial "rock and a hard place". Bruce and Carol, thanks for your insights.

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  4. No end to the financial media scary stories about the Euro,how the little people will fare, all bad as the questions arises if western civilization will continue or Xmas will be cancelled, or modern life will end. The financial media continues to paint the world in black and white.

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  5. Gregory PastikNov 27, 2011 09:57 PM

    "I believe it has caught everyone flatfooted."

    Porter Stansberry was commenting on the Italian risks over 2 years ago. Unicredit failure, Italian bonds default, etc ...

    Not everyone has been caught flat footed.

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  6. Bond holding is catastrophic, subordination or not. If holders have feet, they should already be in motion. IMF is figuring, someday the all clear will sound. Twenty or thirty years sounds about right. Sovereignty will be a distant memory.

    And that's the rosy picture.

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  7. @Ron
    On the contrary I think Bruce has been very sane and accurate with his estimates. Check out his 2011 predictions as well as other posts.

    Thanks Bruce for the heads up, I for one am not holding my breath, these guys have been carrying a rotten corpse on their shoulders for far too long now, another two-three years is not a big deal to them. If we didn't have TV as a dope, world would have imploded long ago.

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  8. Bruce e Carol, obrigado pelo post e pelo comentário.

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  9. Gregory Pastik

    If you read through the 500 blogs (3 years worth) behind this one you will find dozens of examples where I forecast/concluded that a breakup of the Euro was inevitable.

    What I missed was the pace of things over the past few months. I did not anticipate that Italy would be in such distress in 2011.

    Italy has better numbers than the US. This should not be happening. Italy can pay its interest without problem. There is no country in the world that can "pay off" its debt. The hope is that they can cover the interest and roll over the principal.

    The market for rollover of Italian debt has been shut down. Period. It is not just high interest rates the country faces. There are not enough buyers at any price. So default or a massive restructuring/Supranational bailout are the only options.

    This reality is brand new. That was not in the pricing for Italian bonds just a month ago. The slow burn in Europe (what I was anticipating) has now gone to a four alarm fire.
    BK

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  10. Bruce, I understand you can't give specific recommendations. That said, what do you think the best area of opportunities will be for an individual investor through this crisis?

    Thanks

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  11. @wiseman: I agree, Bruce provides interesting insights, my comment was focused towards the financial media in general. Financial sector particularly in the West has used its power and influence to dominate the political/economic process but that power has corrupted any chance of a sustainable long term economy here or in Europe. From my vantage point as a small manufacture the financial sector remade the landscape forcing everyone to play by there rules but excessive financial leverage does have limits.

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  12. Steve in GreensboroNov 28, 2011 10:25 AM

    It would not be the end of the world if the Italian government had to cut back its spending to what it has coming in. Perhaps they could sell assets if they can't meet their debt obligations otherwise.

    Crazy talk, I know.

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  13. Italy next week? Kuwait just collapsed. And, Italy remains a wonderful stepping stone for the Allies. So, Italy is gonna come up smelling like a rose, if you asked me.

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  14. Richard,

    I'm on record for admitting that I'm both scared and confused. I have advocated a high cash position. Yes, you will miss days like today. but look at the tape. It's nearly December and the S&P has gone no where for the year.

    I have NO bonds (but I'm not short).
    I have 25% in equities.
    My equity exposure is in energy and a number of companies that are in "The Cloud".
    I have 75% in cash (it's killing me to admit to that).
    I have NO NO NO financial exposure to banks.
    I have no global exposure (but I think there are more long term investments outside than in).
    I do not own junk. (I'm waiting for a window that I think will come)
    I own no munis.
    I own no dividend stocks.
    Nothing that I do own is a a true "buy and hold". I have price targets. If I get them the investments go off the sheet.
    I try (very hard) to hint singles. Swinging for the fence in these markets is very risky (NFlX,MCP)
    I do not own any gold

    I wish I could be more constructive. I'm more in a capital preservation mode than a capital appreciation mode.

    I change my positioning around several times a year on average. When I'm more involved I play long/shorts and buy/writes. (I almost never play from the net short side and I have not had a short bond position in ten years (but I'm thinking about it).
    bk

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  15. Bruce,

    Could you explain why you would short bonds given the strong stance the Fed has in keeping interest rates low for a long time?

    Thanks,
    Grace

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  16. Bruce,

    Hey there. I just wanted to let you know that you're not the only one holding large amounts of cash. I'm practically all cash, and slowly building up a gold / silver position that, eventually, would represent somewhere between 10 - 20% of my total portfolio.

    Up until recently, I was also "hitting singles" in the options market. However, the failure of MF global was just too much for me. I couldn't take the whole "my broker will evaporate"-style counterparty risk; I left the party.

    My biggest concern here is counterparty risk, so I own no equities, no bonds, no paper assets.

    So....just so you don't feel to bad, here's to holding too much cash!

    Stephen

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  17. Grace,

    I said i was thinking about shorting US paper. My concern is that what is happening in the EU goes next to Japan. If that happens it will come to America.

    If I pull the plug on this I will write about it. My guts tell me that it is still not time to short bonds, but we are getting closer and closer.

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  18. Across the board, any bets are undergoing volatile swings, such as the Italian bonds. It is not a matter of “what to invest in” as one person asked BK. The risk of betting wrong being so high must be considered, not just what.

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