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Wednesday, July 13, 2011

Five of a kind

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Tax them China style


As a nation we are killing ourselves over the budget and the debt ceiling. Did you see Obama on TV? He looks worn down. He does not have the power to craft a solution.

That the USA has a consensual process of creating laws is one of the things that make the country great. It is also one of those things that just kills us from time to time. Today it is killing “us”, it may well kill Obama’s chance to get re-elected.

I wonder if we should do this “China Style”. They do it differently. There is not much debate or discussion. They just print an announcement in the newspaper. They did just that the other day. So what are income taxes in China? The answer is they are very high:


The highest bracket of 45% is for anyone earning above $145,000. Of interest to me is that anyone with an annual income over $64K pays 35% tax.

This chart looks at US tax liabilities by income group. The highest earners pay an average of about 25%.


If the Chinese marginal rates were applied in the USA it would generate about $1.5 trillion of additional revenue. The budget would be balanced overnight. Of course if the US did something like that it would trigger a massive depression. Why is that?



On underwater housing and unemployment


Reuters has a story out suggesting that there is a shortage of workers:

There is ample evidence that unemployment is the critical problem today. With that in mind I found this story to be interesting. Some thoughts:

A) I wonder how much this is a function of the underwater housing market. I hear this all the time:

“I would move to where I could get a better job, but the house is underwater so I’m stuck”


B) Should this trend continue there will have to be some wage increases in the manufacturing sector. That would be welcome, but also inflationary.

Put A and B together and what do you get? Stagflation. That would be Ben Bernanke’s worst nightmare.



On FX Algos

This web site produced some interesting charts. Some of this I knew from reading Zero Hedge. Some of it I was not aware of (the extent of this). I find this very troubling.

This shows that 56% of all NYSE trading is now a result of Algo activity.



$ volume on the NYSE is all over the lot. I find estimates of about $200 billion a day. So $100 billion each day is being traded by the robots. That’s not new news.

The FX market is going through the same transition as the equities market. This chart suggest that over 50% of daily turnover is now computer generated.



But the FX market is a giant compared to stocks. The estimates are that the FX market volume is more than $4 Trillion each day. (I’m not sure I trust all these numbers {I think FX turnover is closer to $8T a day}).

Cut this up as you like. This look at the numbers suggest that as much as $2 trillion of algo trading is happening in the FX markets every day! Ten times more in $ terms than all of the NYSE.

Look again at the chart and note that way way back in 2004 Algos represented only 2% of volume. This is exploding.

I’ve noticed that FX markets have been “spikey” all year. I thought it was just the backdrop of news that was causing the very rapid price adjustments. Looking closer at what role the robots have in this makes me re-think that.

I’m not sure when it will happen, but I think the dominance of robots in FX is going to cause a “flash crash” one day. I just remind everyone who plays in this sandbox that there will be no “regulator” who will DK the millions of trades (trillions of dollars) when (not if) this happens. The losses will be staggering. If you think you can sleep easy with a stop loss; you're wrong.



Dumb tax breaks

Don’t worry about the railroads. They’re doing just fine. All the numbers have been moving higher for this group. Trains now move about 45% of all goods. The industry is looking at 100b in revenues and has a fat (mid teens) profit margin. Ask Warren Buffet. He owns BNSF. He bought it in 2009, he’s making a fortune.

So why do I bring this up? I saw this and it pissed me off.



So our ‘friends’ who own railroads and are making a fortune are also getting a tax break from the Feds for new ties that they lay. The tie business seems to booming as a result.

My point here: We have the absolutely worst tax code that could exist. We ought to throw the whole thing out the window and start anew. I doubt that big shots like Warren B would like that very much, so it won’t happen.



Let them drink water

OJ trading at a record high today. Who cares? Not the Fed.

I’m not blaming the Fed for the high price of orange juice. But I do think it’s a crime that both food and energy prices are exclude from Ben B’s definition of inflation.

I keep expecting the American people to wake up to the realities. They haven’t, yet. I have confidence that they will at some point. It will take more record prices for the things we consume for there to be a significant collective reaction. It’s likely to be ‘noisy’ when it does happen.

The Fed is perpetrating the greatest theft in the history of man. This will not go un-noticed for much longer. The pendulum is going to swing the other way for the Fed. Today they have unlimited power and answer to no one. When the pendulum does swing it will lop off some heads in the process. I wouldn’t bet on Bernanke’s position in the history books. He (and the Fed) could end up taking the brunt of the fallout for what is surely going to come.


17 comments:

  1. My question to those who can't find skilled workers is, "What did you do with the workers you had?" Oh, you discarded them and sent their jobs to China. And now you wonder why they aren't sitting by the phone waiting for your call?

    Another crybaby was on NPR complaining he couldn't get the skilled workers he needed. It came out that the workers are out there at companies that pay 2.5 times what this guy was offering. Go figure why he can't get workers.

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  2. Bruce, you're still trying to "increase revenues" rather than cut the size of government. And you're cloaking it in the "soak the evil rich" crusade...

    Government spending NOW is unsustainable. Tax levels (and wage levels, BTW)are discouraging real, productive investment & encouraging all of us to speculate.

    Taxation and over-regulation NOW are strangling Main Street & small business, stifling the REAL economy.

    Re: China...how many do you think RELLY pay that 45% tax rate? My guess is not very many. The Chinese government is slow and cumbersome and fortunately cannot keep up to nimble capital.

    Like any sensible Chinese (or Taiwanese!) they hide their money.

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  3. At an exchange rate of 6.5 RMB per dollar, 80,000 RMB is $12,307.69, not $145,000. Bruce, how did you arrive at $145K?

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  4. Anon at 10:35

    Look again at the chart. That is monthly income, not annual. So RMB 80k per month = $12,300 as you say, (about $145k per year).

    We okay with that??
    bk

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  5. Bruce-

    You seem a bit sensitive about your charts but I have to point out a couple peculiarities. You have 145K next to the 80K R bucket and 65K next to the 65K R bucket. How does that work?

    Also, you compare a marginal rate chart to a total rate chart - isn't that disingenuous?

    Finally, I noticed you didn't include start and local taxes or FICA / SS taxes in the US chart. Are you sure that there are comparable taxes in China to offset this?

    I'm with the earlier poster. Our government spends to much money. Why don't you calculate a ROI on the taxes we pay and see if you can make a plausible argument that taxes should increase. My guess is that you can't. I'm a BIG FAN of your blog and you usually post smart, but every once in a while you seem to go Paul Krugman on us.

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  6. Thecow,

    These points you make on China/taxes are all valid. I apologize for mixing apples to oranges.

    I was not trying to compare true tax levels between the two countries. I was trying to compare how the two countries approach the process of changing tax rates. We kill ourselves; they print a notice.

    Incomes in China are much lower than the US. An average salary would be closer to $15k versus our 40k. But they have so many more people who are working.

    The changes in China result in a reduction of the bottom end and an increase in the upper end. I have talked with a few who looked at this and concluded that it was, net-net, a stimulus to the economy.

    This was "Five of a Kind". Why is it that all the comments are about taxes is China?

    I fight with Krugman on his blog nearly every day. So please don't call me a Krugman. I'll take anything else you can throw at me. But not that. Too low a blow...
    bk

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  7. JP Morgan Uses Field-Programmable Gate Array Supercomputer to Cut Credit Risk Analysis from 8 Hours to 12 Seconds

    "The project took JP Morgan around three years, and the bank is now looking to push it into other areas of the business, such as high frequency trading."


    http://www.computerworlduk.com/news/it-business/3290494/jp-morgan-supercomputer-offers-risk-analysis-in-near-real-time/

    It seems it will cause a trading range in the market that will go on indefinitely!

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  8. HFT is a nightmare. The "pro" argument is increased liquidity for institutional investors. So what's the trade-off? Marginally better executions for... zero liquidity when it is actually needed? Another flash crash? Every day NANEX or Zero Hedge are publishing about some ETF which went to $.01 because an algo was sloppily programmed. Do the programmers pay? Nope, the exchange simply cancels the trades. That makes the Greenspan/Bernanke put seem modest.

    I sure hope the regulators do something to crush these guys. They probably won't because they don't seem to understand how it works or the risks it poses.

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  9. Folks, disingenuous means “lacking craft or subtlety.” We all need to leave character assassinations and using profanity to cuss out Bruce put away from this blog. Bruce works hard to share, which he has said is the purpose of the blog. You do not have to agree with him, but to throw tomatoes at the performance shows a “low-blow” character and ingratitude. Yes, you will disagree or he may make errors, but he is NOT being crafty and NOT being deceitful. Adding insult to injury was when one person, who after slamming him with profanity says, for him to go on writing. What a heckler! What a disingenuous statement! To disagree, you can add to the discussion and stay on topic, but put your tomato throwing at his face and pie throwing at his face away.

    You really, really upset me and everyone else.

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  10. Chance You TakeJuly 14, 2011 1:53 PM

    I for one would never accuse you of going Krugman. However, your suggestion that we consider doing things "China Style" did remind me of Friedman, and I know you're better than that.

    By the way, I think the reason that all the comments were about China is because the other points are not arguable.

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  11. Bruce - You are right, you are absolutely no Krugman and that is a very good thing. I only meant that you sometimes inch in that direction and an inch of Krugman is worse than a yard of just about anyone else.

    Grace - Disingenuous means "lacking frankness". Bruce correctly understood that my complaint was with the apples to orangeness of the comparison which I think is reasonable to suggest is lacking frankness. It's not remotely a character assassination. You need to tone it back a little.

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  12. If you lived in California you would have the 33% federal tax rate plus the 10% state tax rate (43%). Plus state sales taxes, property taxes, vehicle taxes, etc. I think the top earners are already past the 45% rate.

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  13. One day - at SOME unknown but inevitable point in the future -the economy will give the appearance of having 'improved' and Krugman will claim to have been proven right.

    This will be trumpeted loudly by the media and politicians.

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