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Wednesday, July 27, 2011

Big Boys Duke It Out

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Faye Dunaway had a great line in the movie Chinatown. She said:

I don’t get tough. My lawyers do.

Some of the biggest titans of industry are currently in brawl over a ton of money. As is usual in America, when powerful forces get into a fight they turn to their lawyers (and lobbyists) to do the actual punching. While this may appear to be civil, it’s not. There’s too much at stake.

The issue is the $1 trillion of earnings that corporate America has piled up outside of our borders. This money represents the profits from foreign activities that have not been repatriated back home. This loot has already been taxed in the foreign jurisdiction where the profits have been made. The average tax on this pile of money is only 12%. To bring the money home would trigger an additional tax liability to the IRS equal to ~23% (35% marginal tax minus 12%, foreign taxes paid).

What’s at stake is $250 billion. With that much money on the table the big hitters get the best lawyers and lobbyists to “Get tough”.

On one side of this slug fest are 50 big companies including Apple, Cisco Systems, Devon Energy, Google, Microsoft, Oracle, and Pfizer. They are jointly represented by a slick lobbying outfit called WinAmerica. (link) This is the mission statement of WinA:


Congress should pass legislation to offer an immediate reduction of taxation on income earned overseas by innovative American businesses to allow that money to be brought home and invested in the United States.


Gee! That sounds smart doesn’t it? Some details from WinAmerica:

Currently, there is over $1 trillion earned by American businesses trapped overseas. An essential first step would be to allow these worldwide American businesses the freedom to bring up to $1 trillion in global earnings home to invest it now into our still fragile economy.

Let’s be very clear on this. GOOG/AAPL/MSFT/GE etc. are pushing for a tax holiday. They want to bring all of their foreign profits back home and pay no US tax. This has been done before and there is very little evidence that those companies who benefited in the past actually invested in the US and created jobs. They paid dividends and reduced debt with most of the money.

On the other side of the tax holiday being pushed by WinAmerica are Kimberly-Clark, Zimmer, United Technologies and Caterpillar. Corporate officers of these big hitters testified on this matter to Congress. This group is arguing against a holiday. From a Newsweek report:

"The four chief financial officers testifying at the hearing said they oppose a one-time repatriation holiday that would allow companies to bring back overseas profits at a reduced rate."

So what’s this really about? Why are the titans of American industry spending big bucks and beating each other up? Enlightened self-interest is the answer.

Apple, Cisco Systems, Devon Energy, Google, Microsoft, Oracle, and Pfizer had a total of $164 billion in accumulated undistributed foreign profits. They want that money in their pockets and they don’t want to pay a penny in taxes. This group is prepared to make concessions regarding future tax benefits (deductions economically related to foreign earnings) in exchange for the cash.

Those apposed to a one-time holiday don’t have the big stash of foreign cash, so a holiday does them no good. In some cases a holiday would create a competitive disadvantage. This group is more interested in maintaining the existing tax structure as it is. They want to keep credits for US located activities of R&D, workforce training, and manufacturing.

So the pissing match between the titans (and their lawyers) is about money. It’s about greed and tax avoidance. Surprised?

I think the scale is going to tip in favor of the nice folks at WinAmerica. This is the argument they are selling:

The likelihood of another stimulus, additional tax cuts, or action by the Federal Reserve is low, and unemployment is still too high.

Providing American businesses with incentives to invest at home is a common sense solution that will immediately inject up to $1 trillion into our economy and provide businesses with the certainty they need to help get Americans back to work.

The first part of this is true. There is no stimulus coming from the monetary or fiscal side. The second part is bullshit. There is a ¼ Trillion of tax revenue at stake. That will be traded for a promise of some jobs in the US. There will be some jobs created as a result. But the cost of a $60,000 job will be $500,000 in the final analysis.

Either way this plays out Corporate America will win, the average American will be the loser.

9 comments:

  1. Since we common citizens lose no matter the result, perhaps we should fall back to first principles...
    Bruce: what's fair?
    On the one hand, these companies have paid taxes, why not let them bring it back? Even if not targetted at jobs, the extra money sloshing around will marginally help the economy.
    OTOH, if everyone else would have to pay taxes on money brought back from a foreign investment, why should the WinAm crowd get a break? Let 'em pay their fair share like everyone else.

    Help us sort out that aspect.
    Jim,MtnViewCA,USA

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  2. I'm surprised that no company has tried buying foreign companies with the cash, and spinning them off tax-free to their shareholders.

    Microsoft could try that with Skype.

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  3. WinAmerica’s “win” is dangling the carrot of having more American jobs, to break the barriers of law and order, to be first ahead of the authorities all going faster and faster. We used to work with a pen and quill, and we now make business with computers and faster implements. Living a life of morality has not changed over the centuries however. The Bible explains the consequences of immorality, (or whatever scripture one wishes to use: Dhammapada, Koran.)

    The long run will revert to history that is notwithstanding such flouting of the law, making merry on corporate Learjets flying over oceans, cheering over champagne closed foreign deals and ventures. Your John Templetons who invested overseas never forgot their source of income—God, even the original John Rockefeller and other giants had morals in overseas work.

    These will rue the day of infamy, who flout karmic law. WinAmerica will lose not win. The return of karma is like a needle light ray that illumines darkness. The darkness will not be so hidden as the light of Americans awakens en masse, to bear out such deception and legal corruption. And as Jesus said, “But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!” (Matt 6.23)

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  4. Jim in Cali,
    A compromise of course. A flat tax of only 10%. This puts $900b in corporate profits. 100b in treasury hands.

    But I want more. I want a Minimum Tax on foreign corporate earnings in the future. I want to cut deductions to the bone. I would lower the corporate tax rate to 20%. But I would collect every dime of that.

    I would also change the look back and look forward provisions. This is where GE makes $16b and pays no taxes. That's got to go.

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  5. Patriotism is always for the dude on the bottom of the food chain. The generals are never cannon fodder even when they should be by rights.

    The government of No: the Boss has a spine made from boiled spaghetti, the rest of Governance Cadre is made of hired hands, hired by whom?

    Prez steve sez: pay taxes or else lose your corporate charter allowing you to do business in the US, also will freeze your assets and ask foreign banks to freeze assets until all liabilities are cleared (including repayment of all bailout funds).

    Prez steve sez: hold corporate execs personally responsible for corporate liabilities under Sarbanes: I will detain individuals leaving the country under Patriot Act and hold them in 'black' prisons until all liabilities are cleared.

    Big business isn't the only entity that can 'Do the Paulson'.

    Prez steve sez: all Fed fiat is now demurrage money: a monthly demurrage fee must be added by way of taxing authority to all forms of cash in and out of the country, all amounts revert to zero w/o demurrage.

    How much cash does China hold again? $2 trillion?

    Hmmmm ... demurrage money! Fed could raise rates and remove excess funds from circulation among other things ...

    However, folks love that status quo, getting focked by the devil they know.

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  6. PS: Faye's character wound up getting shot in the head @ the end of that movie. Her tough lawyers weren't tough enough ...

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  7. Steve from Va.

    That movie was not supposed to have a happy ending. She had to die. It was "just Chinatown".

    She does look great in this pic.

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  8. Bruce Krugman is back!

    "Either way this plays out Corporate America will win, the average American will be the loser."

    Been watching a bit too much late night Obama, have we? Bruce, this statement is so ridiculous that I'm not even going to bother to parody it. Can you think about it for a second and then print a retraction?

    "It’s about greed and tax avoidance."

    Or maybe it's about a rational obligation to preserve shareholder value and avoid paying an unnecessarily punitive tax to the highest rate regime in the world?

    Here's a suggestion - why not tackle this issue intelligently and point out that the problem exists because of the painfully high corporate tax structure and that if government lowered taxes domestically and laid off on the regulatory binge maybe companies would be more willing to expand operations in the US?

    As to some of your other suggestions:

    Only 10%, because that puts $100B in the hands of the treasury. Great! Timmy G seems like just the boy for the job and the government is almost certain to use that money more productively than either private enterprise or private citizens, right?

    "Cut deductions to the bone". Absolutely! Let's start with property, plant and equipment. Why bother taxing Net Income when you can tax top line Revenue instead? After all, that's where all the money is! We'll just let the Chinese take over all those inconveniently low margin industries and keep paying for their labor with federal IOUs. What could go wrong?

    "Change the look back provision." Of course! If you lose in 2010 and make in 2011, you pay full tax in 2011 - no netting. But why stop there? After all, if you lose in January, why should you not pay full tax on revenue in February? Why net losing days against winning days? All that does is take useful revenue out of hands of government! Yes we can tax more!

    Great ideas! But I've got an even better one - since you're so keen on corporations paying more money to the government (maybe we can drive more industries overseas and push unemployment up to 15?) why don't you set a good example and send some more of your own money to uncle Sam? Or is it just other people's money that you'd like to see the government take?

    Bruce - what happened? You used to be readable.

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