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Monday, May 16, 2011

Sock it to the Billionaires!

Note to readers: This blog was posted a week ago. Blogspot blew up and somehow the article disappeared into the ether. How can that happen? Anyway, for the historical record I redo it.

The President gave a speech down in Austin recently. This was all about politics. Obama hit on a very popular theme with the DNC folks. He wants a tax increase on wealthy people. There is little doubt but that he will get what he is asking for. The section that I thought was important:

"If we want to reduce our deficit, our sacrifice has to be shared. And that means even as we're making spending cuts, we also have to end the tax cuts to the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans in this country. (Applause.) It's not because we want to punish success. It's because if we're going to ask Americans to sacrifice a little bit, we can't tell millionaires and billionaires that they don't have to do a thing.”
How could one argue with this kind of talk? Millionaires and billionaires are not carrying their share of the burden so we should tax the hell out of them.

The audience that I write to doesn’t like Obama very much. They also don’t like big government; they hate the financial institutions and the fat cats with big bonuses. So I’m interested to hear what might be said on this topic. Is Obama striking a chord with you? I understand if he does. But you need to look where this is headed. If you are young, with children, and have debt from education or a home and aspire for some degree of success in your life; beware. What Obama is proposing is headed your way.

When Obama talks of taxing millionaires and billionaires he is missing the mark. He is pushing for a higher tax on income. What he doesn’t get is that millionaires and billionaires actually don’t have that much income. Yes they have wealth, but it is very easy to avoid paying taxes on wealth. The people who will pay higher taxes are young people, not the rich old fogies that have bundles in the bank. I got this note from a young professional who works very hard and is far from wealthy. He does make a decent income and that income will get squeezed by the higher taxes that are coming.

I love it when Obama talks about taxing the "wealthy" when he talks of high taxable income. Since he targets people with high wage income, he's targeting young people without much wealth that have a lot of debt (student, home, etc). The wealthy are mostly older folks, many of whom have lots of their money in muni bonds and assets throwing off capital gains. The wealthy are also foreigners who can invest in the US without US tax on their capital gains, and reduced US tax on dividends if a treaty applies, and generally, no US tax on interest income.

If you want to hike taxes on engineers, doctors, lawyers, accountants, airline pilots, and others with householders in high-earning brackets, fine. But it takes balls to call them millionaires and billionaires.


In the President’s speech he had this to say:

I don't want a $200,000 tax cut that's paid for by asking 33 seniors each to pay more than $6,000 in extra Medicare costs. I don't want that. I don't want my tax cut paid for by cutting kids out of Head Start or doing away with health insurance for millions of people on Medicaid, seniors in nursing homes and poor children and middle-class families who are raising a child with a disability like autism. That's not a tradeoff I'm willing to make.


These sure sound like popular views. The President has defined the debate here. This is about billionaires on the one hand and seniors, Medicaid and Medicare recipients even kids with autism on the other hand. But actually the proposal to increase income taxes will hurt a different audience than those billionaires. Those that are going to get hit, the young lawyers, doctors, airline pilots and business people of all stripes are going to respond with their feet. They will not vote for leadership that puts the tax burden squarely on them.

The end result will be that the political pendulum will shift to the extreme right. The House, Senate and the White House will belong to conservatives. When that happens there will be a great unwinding of the social programs that Obama champions. And all those who think the solution is to tax wealth will be very disappointed with the outcome.

13 comments:

  1. Excellent points, Bruce.
    I voted for Carter, but we learned under him that "rich people" ultimately becomes "people who have jobs". The tax penalties inevitably trickle down to families with assets that can't be hidden: pay checks, 401K accounts, homes.

    One other observation. Gov't has (imo) been spending like crazy and it affects us all. Yet, whenever belt-tightening is proposed, the effects are always to punish to low end. Teachers are laid off, they don't elminate unneeded organizations. Sucks.

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  2. Of course its about politics! Gee we have a big election coming up next year and both major parties are busy doing various voter studies to come up with some basic stump speeches. Obama will try and get the Democratic base back on his side and it appears that tax the rich seems to be a reasonable election year banner ad that will be throughly tested in various markets just like any new product offering from a major company. The end political reality is that little if anything will change maybe the Bush tax cuts get massaged and put back in play but I won't spend much time listening to the political horseradish being dished out.

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  3. Come on Bruce, what he said was "end the tax cuts to the wealthiest 2% of Americans..."
    The tax cuts included capital gains tax cuts, and there are no "wage earners" in this category of people. I don't know what Obama is specifically proposing, just what he said.
    Frankly, I don't think it matters much what they do. They can't cut a $trillion in spending without tanking the economy, nor can they can't tax their way back to sanity.
    That said, the current wealth distribution tables are pretty clear. People don't rob banks cause they hate them, its just that they happen to be where we keep the money.
    Also, this anti-tax thing is getting a little embarrassing. Put our current deficit (1.5 $trillion) in terms of world population (7 billion), and we need to effectively borrow $200 from every human on the planet so America can pay the bills this year. Let's just keep doing that. Or better, get em to lend us 400 bucks each and we can stop paying taxes all together, and still go on pretending we're rich.

    One of the things I like about you is that you are still oddly optimistic. You can still get worked up about things.

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  4. But What do I Know?May 12, 2011 11:31 AM

    Great point about the problems with taxing income rather than wealth--under our system, "Tax the rich" becomes "Tax the upper-middle class salary earner" in pretty short fashion. Unfortunately, the Republicans don't have anything better to offer--"cut spending" just isn't going to win them many votes that they don't already have. More and more, Obama is looking like a shoo-in simply because the GOP doesn't have a viable candidate. What does it say about this country that the quality of our political class is so poor? Lately, it seems to have attracted people who just want to be on TV. .

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  5. It's always been this way: propose taxes on the "rich" during austere times, and then inflate to the point where everyone in the middle class is all-of-a-sudden "rich" in historical nominal terms. It's a classic scam, and the statists always get away with it. In the meantime, the ultra wealthy who've looted the Treasury to the detriment of everyone else say: "Fine, tax the hell out of us. As long as we can keep stealing without recourse, we'll pay all the taxes you want..."

    Kill the entrepreneur and working professional, feed the kleptocratic banker and bureaucrat. Same as it ever was.

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  6. Hi Bruce,

    I'm a big fan of your honesty and bravery. I wonder if you have read 23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism by Ha-Joon Chang? I've been a free-market libertarian type for a long time (MBA from USC) and this book truly opened my eyes.

    Best regards,

    derek

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  7. But What do I Know?May 16, 2011 5:44 AM

    I was wondering what happened to this! Thanks for reposting. . .

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  8. I am glad that people are finally starting to pay attention to Obama's bait and switch. He frames the debate one way and then proposes something that doesn't address the problem that he has identified.

    It some ways it is similar to health care. He defined the out of control cost system and then endorsed a plan that dealt with coverage but exacerbated costs. This seems to be his modus operandi.

    It would seem to me simplistically that if you want to make the super wealthy pay higher taxes, then create a millionaire's tax that ratchets higher for every million you make. This would discourage some of the ridiculous salaries that accrue to CEOs, who do nothing more than steer a ship, at the expense of the average worker.

    On the other hand, if he really wants to effect change, he should eliminate all loopholes, lower individual tax rates, impose a millionaire's tax, and equalize capital gains rates to the new income taxes.

    But then I don't think he is actually interested in effecting change.

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  9. Hi Bruce,

    Thanks for posting this a 2nd time. I really appreciate your honesty and bravery when it comes to hard facts. Have you read 23 Things They Don't Tell You About Capitalism? My long term economic POV has been pretty much free-market. But this book has opened my eyes and brutally altered my world view (simple, direct, anti-academic economics). It seems to me that there ought to be a tax on capital as "income" can be disguised in so many ways.

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  10. Who do you recommend we tax to cover the expenses for all the immigrants that you always recommend we bring into the country?

    The poor is too broke to be taxed, and the middle class is on its way out. There is nobody left to tax, except the rich.

    At some point, libertarians are going to have to come to terms with the fact that open-borders are not compatible with a welfare state. You can't have both. You also can't easily dismember a welfare state without massive social unrest.

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  11. Anon @10 36

    I recommended that we raise taxes in order to pay for illegal workers?

    Not me.

    I do think we need immigration. This country has always had that as an engine. It should not be illegal however. That just costs society a bundle.

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  12. Bruce,

    You missed my point.

    The distinction between legal and illegal immigration is moot. Large scale population transfer of any kind is destabilizing and requires increased investment in social services.

    You seem to like the idea of immigration, but refuse to acknowledge that someone has to take care of these immigrants.

    Who should pay to take care of them?

    The poor is too broke to be taxed. The middle class is dying out. That only leaves the rich.

    I hate to raise taxes, but someone has to pay for this stuff. We can't borrow from the Chinese to take care of Mexicans forever. This system is broke and something has to give.

    By raising taxes on the rich, we can hit two birds with one stone:
    1) Pass the cost of immigration to the people most enthusiastic about it
    2) Prevent tax arbitrage within the US (Wealthy feeling problematic diversity states like California/NY/Florida to homogenous places like Washington/Iowa/Main/CT etc. This way, limousine liberals can be held accountable for what they support. You can run, but you can't hide.


    BTW, I don't like Obama and did not vote for him, but I do support his tax on the rich 100%

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