While the MSM and some in D.C. are starting the push against the tax increases it was interesting to see the CBO chime in on the topic. They rained all over the rosy thoughts about preserving the Bush tax cuts. They put out a paper yesterday titled, “Federal Debt and the Risk of a Financial Crisis”. Hopefully Mr. Kudlow will read it. I’m sure a number of folks in Washington will. They could choose to ignore this report. But at our collective peril, according to the CBO. The following graph was released a few weeks ago; it was used again in the July 27 report. This is what a doomsday scenario looks like:
The dark blue dotted line is how bad things will be even if we let the Bush tax cuts sunset. But the light blue line is the disaster that will befall us if we don’t let them expire. We will be over 200% debt to GDP in twenty years. This terrible chart still does not tell us how bad things are. This information excludes the intergovernmental debt which is every bit as “Due and Payable” as the debt held by the Chinese. When you add in the extra 4.5T of IG debt we will be north of 150% Debt/GDP before 2020.
We will never make it to 150%. We will blow up in a spectacular fashion before we even get close to that mark. Some snippets from the CBO report: (full report here)
Further increases in federal debt relative to the nation’s GDP almost certainly lie ahead if current policies remain in place.
Unless policymakers restrain the growth of spending/increase revenues as a share of GDP, budget deficits will cause debt to rise to unsupportable levels.
A growing level of federal debt would increase the probability of a sudden fiscal crisis, during which investors would lose confidence and the government would lose its ability to borrow at affordable rates.
Having a small amount of debt outstanding gives policymakers the ability to borrow to address significant unexpected events such as recessions, financial crises, and wars.
The government would need to undertake some combination of three actions:
-restructuring its debt;
-pursuing inflationary monetary policy;
-adopting an austerity program of spending cuts and tax increases.
Governments can attempt to change the terms of their existing debt—investors would demand a large interest premium on subsequent loans for many years.
Foreign investors would face substantial losses.
Higher inflation might appear to benefit the U.S. government. However, higher inflation would also increase the size of future budget deficits.I am sure that Bernanke reads these reports. I wonder if he was struck by the comment, “higher inflation might appear to benefit the U.S. government”. He should be, that is his only policy at this point. Will he consider the CBO warning? I doubt it. Will Congress? It depends on the November elections.



I think a good name for the light blue dotted line is the Black Hole scenario. TB Rates gradually rise, investors find them attractive, and more and more liquidity is sucked in until.....
ReplyDeleteThe debt candle is also burning at the other end as currency becomes more valuable (think I'm lying, find someone with real cash dollars in amounts greater than $.69).
ReplyDeleteAt some point cash preference extend to bonds which will be 'sold/traded' for cash ... until nobody wants to make that trade and then bonds will be dumped for whatever cash can be had. Bonds make nice wallpaper, I understand ...
Since cash (dollars) are priced by crude oil the bond revulsion is lurking right over the horizon - maybe next year!
I don't know what the trigger will be. It could be failed austerity in the Eurozone, money- printing in China or Japan or any number of other breakdowns.
The turn to cash is not so much a flight to safety as it is the means to petroleum and what remains of industrial commerce.
The cash preference exists in Europe now - see the Eurozone force austerity on its members to 'protect' the euro. Austerity will bankrupt Europe because a 'strong' euro is necessary to avoid an energy crisis.
Stimulus spending winds up in Saudi Arabia and so does austerity, what does that tell you about policy?
What does it say about next year's bond market?
PS, Kudlow is a moron, I don't know why anyone pays attention to him ...
ReplyDeleteJust to play devil's advocate here, how do you right this with Japan's scenario of close to 200% debt to GDP and even lower interest rates and no sign of inflation or currency debasement? Would love to hear your take on the MMT view that Gov. spend should not be restrained at this point given the type of crisis we are in.
ReplyDeleteI wrote about Japan some time ago. I am concerned with their external debt. It is fine for the moment. Thee are other things to focus on. Japan. like the US are safe havens. Those that have the most debt are safe havens? Oh well.
ReplyDeleteJapan is big. Also stable according to the BoJ.
End Gross
of External
Quarter Debt
2005 年 10~12月 179,441
2006 年 1~3月 r 175,461
4~6月 r 178,374
7~9月 r 179,420
10~12月 179,956
2007 年 1~3月 r 181,285
4~6月 r 184,861
7~9月 r 191,498
10~12月 201,530
2008 年 1~3月 r 211,015
4~6月 r 207,521
7~9月 r 214,293
10~12月 202,427
2009 年 1~3月 r 204,759
4~6月 r 204,541
7~9月 r 198,853
10~12月 192,073
2010 年 1~3月 p 190,136
Sorry for the ugly cut and paste. "End of Quarter Gross External Debt"
ReplyDeleteJapan has been able to shoulder this burden thanks to a spendthrift population who happily invest their hard earned yen in Jap Govt bonds at 1.03% yield per annum. They are a nation of savers, not spenders.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, we are not so lucky. Bruce is absolutely correct.. we'll never get to the 150% mark as the bond market, which is many times the size of the US Gov't {and thus not under Washington's control} decides that we are no better than Greece or Spain. But I do think that long before any economic crisis hits us, the Europeans will meet their own Waterloo.
They are a nation of savers, not spenders.
ReplyDeleteI don't understand that. They run scandalous deficits yet everyone buys bonds? Isn't this just moving the pea, and will net to zero eventually?
Similarly, isn't every bond *we* sell really a missed tax/tariff opportunity?
I sometimes think the System prefers 3% nominal 10-year than the alternative of -100% that actual taxation is.
#higher inflation might appear to benefit the U.S. government”.
ReplyDeleteeach time I read that kind of crap I vomit.. :(
THERE HAVENT EVER BEEN A PERIOD OF HIGH INFLATION that benefited to ANY goverment...
please,, name .. anyone ?
Argentina, RUSSIA, former Yougoslavia, Vaimar, etc etc etc ... all ##ucking blowed off... pure and simple...
reason is simple.. cost of debt service alweays lagged nominal icreases in prices (AKA inflation)..
tht stupid idiot just saying LETS PAY HIGHER %RATES.. when did he last time check total US debt ? I wonder.. it's already +13 trln $,,,
%rate is up.. cost of servie curent debt is up..
30% pie of bugget, 50% ,, then COLLAPSE..
alex
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japan is toast.. they print 1 yen for eahc 1 yen in taxed revenue..
Inflation screws the poor. Wages never keep up with inflation. It also hurts the middle class.
ReplyDelete...decides that we are no better than Greece or Spain.
ReplyDeleteYeah, OK, but how likely is that to happen? Given the political and military hegemony of the US. Realistically, what threatens that? And how likely is it that the US dollar will cease to be, or be less, accepted as 'legal tender for all debts, public and private'? Not only in the US, but around the world? The US is, and will almost certainly (nothing is 100% certain) remain, the only true 'safe haven'. One last question: How many people in China, and Asia generally, live on less than $1/day?
Kudlow is definitely obnoxious. But I think he's paid to be.
The debt could be dramatically reduced by making the rich pay their fair share in taxes.
ReplyDeleteLibhom, that statement is idiotic. Define "rich?" I make $140K a year and live in NY. Does that make me Rich? Define "dramatically reduced." The problem is two fold(taxes and government spending). I can't remember the exact figure that came in but it was something like only 49% of US citizens even pay taxes. The rest are on some sort of government program or get tax credits to the point where they get a refund for everything. Now some of those people are unemployed from the latest downturn but the what about the rest? Federal income taxes are only part of the revenue the US government brings in. If we raise taxes on the "rich" and bring in another 100 billion dollars the US government would just spend it on something else to turn the 49% of the people not paying taxes to 51%. I have been paying income taxes since I was 15. I am almost 40 now. I'm tired of the argument of tax the "rich." I consider myself "rich" not because of the money I make but because of my world travels and seen just what poor really is. If been in places where if you had $100 you were a king. I define "rich" as being able to take as many hot showers I want in a day. I wonder how you defined it.
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